Subject	FWIW: The key 2a successful business that survives long term
Posted by	The Devils Z on September 05, 2011 at 8:40 AM
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In Reply To	I probably shouldn't say anything... but here goes... posted by Nick (ASH-SPEC) on September 04, 2011 at 11:07 PM
Message	is not the product but more so the customer relationship. If that is not the core of your business model - the customer service / client relationship - no business will survive no matter how superior / inferior your product is. The product allows you to "enter" business and keep a viable "supply". It's the customer service that maintains the "demand". Keep in mind that the supply / demand curve does adjust given certain parameters but in general, you can have the best products in the world and if you have a poor reputation / service - you won't last long - unless it's a government regulated / monopolistic industry. Price cutting is only 1/2 of it and never lasts long. Personally, I would treat any inferior product like ebay and focus on the "personable relationship aspect". Treat it like a marriage. =============Sig begins here================ The Devils Z.com The Devils Z Pic 666 rwhp dyno View Me! Disclaimer : Not Safe For Work !
Follow Ups	Has anyone noticed Chinada's new product? - 90GoldZ 13:14:22 09/04/11 .... - jschrauwen 13:56:03 09/04/11 Quick to react/defend, huh troll? (n/m) - Aqualung 13:58:21 09/04/11 umm nooo. - twin3037 14:04:21 09/04/11 For once your right. SPL = Quality Parts> AMS = Crap Parts!! (n/m) - Zski 14:57:55 09/04/11 Why aren't you banned yet? (n/m) - Jackie 20:47:36 09/04/11 You < 0 - BigTDogg (MA) 21:16:47 09/05/11 Actually, I think the AMS version was released first, but - zgene4 13:57:16 09/04/11 I dont know exact dates but - twin3037 14:09:31 09/04/11 It's a copy of the Cusco .Driftworks , - ArubaDave 14:15:25 09/04/11 +1 (n/m) - Pilot.P (NZ) 16:09:57 09/04/11 Re: Has anyone noticed Chinada's new product? - ubermiach 14:31:28 09/04/11 You do realize AMS does not represent Canada as a whole. (n/m) - Adamo 15:38:20 09/04/11 Deport Vuk, jschrauwen, and AMS as a whole to china & - samsungz 15:53:01 09/04/11 Lol, I don't think that's within my powers but I still don't - Adamo 16:04:24 09/04/11 Chinada= AMS's part of the country.. - 90GoldZ 17:02:43 09/04/11 FYI: Toronto sucks in general, just ask Leafs fans (n/m) - Aqualung 17:08:34 09/04/11 ..... - jschrauwen 16:10:15 09/04/11 Can you tell the difference... - 90GoldZ 17:03:49 09/04/11 The v1 Hicas eliminator *is* from Midori Seibi - kuah@splparts.com 09:25:40 09/06/11 I tried to tell him this on numerous occasions... - Aqualung 15:50:08 09/06/11 Agreed, John is not really interested in the truth - kuah@splparts.com 16:14:36 09/06/11 The AMS is a copy of a different product - FuerGrissa 16:21:36 09/04/11 You do know that Vuk doesn't do anything with them - s3trios 16:26:55 09/04/11 Fail on my behalf.. - 90GoldZ 17:05:01 09/04/11 Strictly a coincidence, I'm sure...... - SilverTwin(OH) 17:22:51 09/04/11 Wow, makes you wonder. (n/m) - HighPsi (NorCal) 18:06:47 09/04/11 I can't wait for his response. (n/m) - Evan(CA) 19:03:05 09/04/11 And Ash thought you were kidding when you wrote this post-> - Aqualung 19:07:06 09/04/11 Yeah Tim..just a coincidence.. - 90GoldZ 21:55:15 09/04/11 Better yet, they copies Ash's 2.5" IC piping ---> - induetime 17:25:39 09/04/11 Adam, i'm surprised it hasn't been copied already - vulcanrush 17:41:15 09/04/11 They would never sell them that cheap, they like to gouge - HighPsi (NorCal) 18:11:07 09/04/11 even at 400, let's say - vulcanrush 18:22:48 09/04/11 They would sell them for $400 IF - induetime 19:04:37 09/04/11 i trust you, 400 was just an arbitrary low-ball number (n/m) - vulcanrush 19:14:34 09/04/11 I still wouldn't invest my money on AMS.. (n/m) - 90GoldZ 22:01:25 09/04/11 Wow, unbelievable. - Wright (Ca) 17:50:32 09/04/11 I've also wondered that as well, not encouraging it by any - samsungz 18:06:04 09/04/11 NOT ONLY THAT!!!!!! >>>> AMS coping ASH-SPEC - Zski 19:19:15 09/04/11 They are not even trying to hide it anymore!!!!! (n/m) - Zski 19:20:11 09/04/11 um, no. (n/m) - ali300zx 21:09:58 09/04/11 Signs that it is coming, just add black anodizing - SilverTwin(OH) 20:25:25 09/04/11 Basically if jschrauwen buys it, AMS copies it soon after - Aqualung 20:45:01 09/04/11 those are not even 2.5in, - FuerGrissa 01:13:56 09/05/11 Doesnt appear to have any recirc fittings either. (n/m) - madscientist222 11:37:29 09/05/11 Wow. Just wow. (n/m) - zfreak(Dallas) 21:51:27 09/04/11 WOW... - 90GoldZ 22:03:33 09/04/11 Please Advise!!! AMS affiliates???? (n/m) - Zski 22:06:41 09/04/11 = Z32 Innovations - basically douchebags that Vuk throws - LitlElvis 10:48:58 09/05/11 ^^what brett said.. - 90GoldZ 13:11:11 09/05/11 GoldZ, who are business partners of AMS??? - Zski 13:47:57 09/05/11 It's quite obvious.. - 90GoldZ 13:59:12 09/05/11 Nobody searches anymore... but jschrauwen, honzrr, kosovo - BigTDogg (MA) 09:10:17 09/06/11 I'm glad I bought Ashspec, too. (n/m) - ForceFedTT (SoCal) 22:25:13 09/04/11 You gotta be kidding me! I usually keep quiet on this stuff - Mr.Stacy 22:19:21 09/04/11 This company is just plain greedy, I've never bought AMS - toykoz32 00:45:29 09/05/11 their fall will be a particularly entertaining one - LJZTT 13:22:50 09/05/11 IMHO that expansion is really just a sham. (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 21:50:42 09/06/11 I probably shouldn't say anything... but here goes... - Nick (ASH-SPEC) 23:07:30 09/04/11 For the record this is my own personal statement - Nick (ASH-SPEC) 23:10:29 09/04/11 Are the advertised Ashspec ECU and fuel controller on AMS's - Evan(CA) 23:22:10 09/04/11 No They are not but I do not believe they are copies either - Nick (ASH-SPEC) 23:45:21 09/04/11 Notice the price of the ECU Upgrade - Nick (ASH-SPEC) 23:48:27 09/04/11 So what does that say for those of us who buy your products - jlag 23:52:10 09/04/11 For those of you who bought the first few sets of pipes - Nick (ASH-SPEC) 00:00:45 09/05/11 One of those sets was not corrected however... - Nick (ASH-SPEC) 00:03:31 09/05/11 ...jswingswing's? (n/m) - 90GoldZ 13:19:39 09/05/11 You guys are smart enough to figure that out on your own - Nick (ASH-SPEC) 16:58:40 09/05/11 He and AMS have gotten called out on aus300zx.com as well. - BoneZ (MD) 23:21:43 09/05/11 I've dealt with Ash for many year and he has always been - Mr.Stacy 00:14:41 09/05/11 I've been buying from Ashspec for 10yrs and - ForceFedTT (SoCal) 02:52:09 09/05/11 I've only dealt with Ash & Nick ---> - 90GoldZ 13:19:06 09/05/11 there's always a certain amount of risk being taken... - spicyZ 05:52:13 09/05/11 I thought so. (n/m) - ForceFedTT (SoCal) 02:41:10 09/05/11 Out of principle, I demanded that AMS remove all > - LitlElvis 10:42:23 09/05/11 Thank you Brett for being one of the TRUE innovators - Nick (ASH-SPEC) 11:07:18 09/05/11 Good. And to second Nick, there are enough good people who - BoneZ (MD) 15:37:38 09/05/11 And yet you still distribute to and through Z1? (n/m) - ni[X]it 18:55:15 09/05/11 Yes I do, I don't believe Z1 "is" AMS/Z32 innovations (n/m) - LitlElvis 13:38:43 09/06/11 FWIW: The key 2a successful business that survives long term - The Devils Z 08:40:20 09/05/11 Enter Greg, Seb, and Kyle - Nick (ASH-SPEC) 10:50:40 09/05/11 Ok ... The meaning behind the post was the relationships - The Devils Z 06:39:36 09/06/11 I guess I'm used to people pointing out our customer service - Nick (ASH-SPEC) 11:19:23 09/06/11 I personally will say Thank You to Ash-spec for - Boosted1 09:18:33 09/05/11 well said (n/m) - aliaZ 09:22:49 09/05/11 good for you guys (n/m) - LJZTT 13:26:57 09/05/11 Golf clap (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 21:13:30 09/05/11 Well said. (n/m) - zfreak(Dallas) 14:08:20 09/06/11 Yep. (n/m) - SeedyROM 01:19:32 09/05/11 Anyone noticed that jschrauwen stopped posting in this - Only1Z 11:16:22 09/05/11 His hands and mouth are busy pleasuring Vuk... (n/m) - Aqualung 13:17:18 09/05/11 Yep. (n/m) - 90GoldZ 13:20:11 09/05/11 Re: Anyone noticed that jschrauwen stopped posting in this - aliaZ 13:59:53 09/05/11 Coz of "Concept Z Performance" is doing the same thing. (n/m) - ni[X]it 18:52:30 09/05/11 From what I've seen, his is an original design - Stadsport (PHX) 22:36:50 09/05/11 The IC piping, yes, but he copies products in general. (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 09:37:29 09/06/11 Believe it or not... it was a copy of the original> - Nick (ASH-SPEC) 11:17:35 09/06/11
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